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No HR High Map Challenge

New postby outofthegamer on 30 Dec 06, 06:35

Get as much percentage as possible with all glitch techs, except:
Back-dash+DHR, Thrust+DHR, and Sinking.
This eliminates Extended wall grabs, Bat-ups, and any shifting beyond the initial shift in S4R.

Small edge-travel is still posible with dive-kick+DHR, and it may be possible to shift the Chapel bell-towers with a perfectly timed dive-kick+DHR; but no one has tested this(?) and for this challenge it will be dis-allowed.

I feel that before all forms of edge-travel were found, that this game was only semi-broken. And afterwards, the game seems so broken that we've questioned the legality of a tech involving back-dash+DHRs, since it's inception.

Btw, this is a race so you'd better hurry and get started!!!
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New postby Pale-Dim on 30 Dec 06, 07:33

i must agreee

DOWN WITH EDGE TRAVEL!

:)

Thats horizontal sinking bastid!

why not just dis-allow the hr. that would be sooo oldschool
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New postby arukAdo on 30 Dec 06, 13:49

Pale-Dim wrote:why not just dis-allow the hr. that would be sooo oldschool


That true... pure oldschoold ^^

Beside i cant start this with my current skills it sound good outofthegamer start to do it

What is your theoric limit? approx i mean

So if i understand well, Half Blood is autorized, but what about Level Up Shift? (there is no HR involve...)
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New postby outofthegamer on 30 Dec 06, 18:22

level-up shifts and HBs would be just fine. I just want to avoid techs that involve very long DHR chains...except IC belltower shifts (120 HRs). I think the limit would be around 375% but getting there will be tricky. I was doing some testing with dive-kick+DHRs last night; and managed to get under the holy glasses area with only 35-40 HRs.

Pale-Dim: the WG is, of course, allowed. But SRing and WGing are 2 of my least favorite techs.

Remember when the max. % was 355.7%? This challenge will be like doing all the techs known then, plus all the techs found in the last year or so: S4R (one shift), BTG/HB, and the IC keep shift tech.

*can't remeber if floor escapes were around for the "355.7%" days, but they are definitely allowed for this challenge.
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New postby arukAdo on 01 Jan 07, 02:45

Sound good even if im not realy getting all of this (since i havent done more than 220% approx lol)

I promise i get on this as i finish laming low game challenge ^^
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New postby arukAdo on 02 Jan 07, 15:32

I was going to try out something but gonna ask before

What do you think i can get without using any DHR? max %?
Also i mean without sword brother lvl99 (but im sure i can halfblood as much as this spell...)
I think im correct that shield rod + alucard shield = 1HR
So for getting some white rooms i was thinking of using single HR instead of shield rod combo, it sound more "doable" for me....

Paledim already suggested no HR use, but indeed, i think it should be "no DHR" ???
Turbo single HR isnt good?

I say that coz realy i see no point of laming the shield rod combo (since everybody saying its so hard to pull off) and have same result as single HR
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New postby paulo1179 on 10 Jan 07, 16:33

I have a new idea: No relics challenge. Easy? NO!!!!

The idea is get a lot of rooms (glitched rooms too) without picking relics.

*We can't grab a lot of items and sub-weapons (except Axe I think)
*No high jumps and transformations
*No Death Techs...

Very hard challenge too! :D
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New postby arukAdo on 10 Jan 07, 20:21

No subweapon, even axe...
Sound good to me : problem i think no relic game is impossible ... ?
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New postby f1r3 on 11 Jan 07, 02:41

I think you need at least Vlad relics since we can't high jump or even double jump since it's a relic ability.
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New postby arukAdo on 11 Jan 07, 03:24

Level up shift is ok for reach shaft

But you need anyway the wolf, for wolf raise

I can get gravity boot with wolf only ^^
Without wolf sound pretty hard to me

Also for the axe i meant you need cube of zoe
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Re: New Glitching Challenge

New postby reverzero on 11 Jan 07, 11:58

ill join if the challenge is wolf and shield combo glitching. what maybe the maximum %? and assuming, shield combo and ceiling flicker will work in getting ceiling rooms!! i never try this combo before. how insane i am hahaha^^
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New postby f1r3 on 13 Jan 07, 06:10

No relics = No transformations and their abilities, no ferry man (meaning no water protection), no familiars, no vlad relics and no grav or double jump. Even if you shift to get to shaft, there'd be no way to go up there.

Unless you DHR! lol

If you allow Cube, then it's just limited relics. Not as hard. XP Especially since you need to slowly collect money for a duplicator to DHR into Shaft's in no relics challenge.
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New postby reverzero on 13 Jan 07, 08:36

its so boring if no grab jump and double jump:( anyway nice idea^^
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New postby arukAdo on 13 Jan 07, 22:32

Its impossible, you cant reach DHR
You cant get anywhere whitout relics
You could get to karasuman then stuck i think
How to reach richter ... then your stuck in reverse keep...
No realy it sound impossible to me (even i would love to lol)
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New postby arukAdo on 21 Jan 07, 17:55

Here what i done today, no duplicator, no HR, level6 30HP and 23MP
The lowbeat game for glitching, is quite a amazing challenge

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Here are my first result, getting out chapel and getting rooms was long and painfull

I discover for exemple, no matter how hard you can try, its IMPOSSIBLE to get the bat with the mist, if you are under 20MP (i was 18, then 23)
This because, the mist (in 1st form) need 10MP per second, and since its in a jump, unlike after taking the mist where you run, you need a little more time...
I tryed hard with wolf raise and levitation, and never could get it, if you have ideas, its realy welcome ^^
I didnt tryed to wolf raise for getting the trust sword, but i dont think it help here, since you are very low mana

Getting the bat under 20mp, is quite a challenge, i didnt was able to do it :cry:

Then after anyway, lets say you have the shield rod under 20MP, well same goes here, you are stuck, you need 20MP to use shield rod combo with alucard shield

Paledim : How im suppose to get the celling with the combo? is there is a topic maybe where you explain it ?
I tryed to jump a little in some cells and activate the rod, but sound not working great
Also i got under quite a numerous floors, and no success in trying to activate the rod there (labs for exemple), is it normal?

EDIT : I got my first cell catch with shield rod ! i think i understood how it work, but, i still have no idea where it can work great, or cannot work at all
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